Yes, Sony has been working on the Eye Toy for a long time. They were working on motion control tech, but not with an actual controller like Nintendo, more like Natal in a sense or Natal is like the Eye Toy, you get the picture. Nintendo truly brought out the motion control/controller interface to the people. Sony brought out the Eye Toy. Without the Wii, the next “Eye Toy” would not have been one with a controller strikingly similar to that of the Nintendo Wii. It does not take a rocket scientist to know that the console market wants to capitalize on Wii’s successes.

And while were at, Nintendo has been working with motion control since the 1980s. It’s called the Powerglove. NEXT.

ITS A HARD-CORE MACHINE IM GOING TO BURST YOUR ENTIRE CONCEPT OF REALITY

THERES NO SUCH THING AS HARD-CORE OR A HARD-CORE MACHINE WERE DID YOU GET THAT FROM = “”"”"THE INDUSTRY”"”"

ITS CALLED A MARKETING LIE AND NINTENDO GOING CASUAL = FALLACY

PLEASE SEEK MENTAL HEALTH ADVICE IF YOU BELIEVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ABOVE CAPS

WIIBOY101/SEAN MALSTROM

move 300 degrees tracking max via camera plus LOTS OF LAG

wii motion plus 1600 degrees tracking over 5x more than move with vastly less lag

sub controller zero motion play it has no motion

nunchuck 300 degrees motion tracking

sony rely s on cameras and light bulbs = lag reported up-to 6 frames every 30

wii can be almost entirely lag free

camera based motion is maxed out at 300 degrees you will never get any more

wii motion plus is not only 5 x more its all internal at your hand in the controls a camera doesn’t need to see a thing

camera tracking will be very easy to interfere with other light sources etc

wii has a genius yet simple button lay out and the wii remote is also a side on controller

sonys move button lay out is strange and not thought out and there’s way way to many buttons on sub controller

camera tracking doesn’t = mouse like fps aim i just don’t see it working like wiis ir pointer mouse

moves seems like a poor mans wii control mixed with some natal its not well thought out its as if sony tried every trick in the book to copy nintendo with out getting into patent trouble

it resulted in a crap controller

nintendo dropped camera based motion with wands and they said no to natal like tech too

WHY BECAUSE IT LAGS ITS RESTRICTIVE AND ITS EXPENSIVE

ps3 motion control userbase may hit say 10 million BY THAT TIME wii USERBASE HITS 110 MILLION

is it so hard to understand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyetoy:_Play (this was PS2′s Wii Play)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeToy:_Kinetic (PS2′s Wii fit)

So according to your logic, if the Playstation Move copied off Wii, then Nintendo’s Wii Fit and Wii Play copied off Sony PS2′s Eyetoy: Play, and Eyetoy: Kinetic.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/scee-wii-owners-will-upgrade-to-ps3

http://www.gamestooge.com/2010/03/11/sony-hopes-wii-owners-move-to-ps3/

I do agree that it had some good one like Resident Evil, House of the Dead: OVerkill, No more Heroes, and Madworld. I’m also glad to see Nintendo was able to get Call of Duty: Modern Warfare on the Wii. But I don’t see any other good game on the Wii beside the first party like Mario, Zelda, and Metroid. oh by thw way, Didn’t Project Natal kind of act similarly to Playstation 2′s Eyetoy last generation? I don’t see why Sony can do a controller similar to the Wii. IF Project Natal can borrow tech from PS2′s Eyetoy, then why can’t the PS3 take something from the Wii. If you say that, then shouldn’t Littlebigplanet creator get lawsuit because the gameplay look like Super Mario Bros.

The PS3 has many thing that the Wii couldn’t do like HD gaming and playing Blu-ray and DVD movie. The PS3 is not only a gaming console, but it’s also a multimedia console and I’m proud to have a PS3, and I’m planning to get the Wii in the future also because I grew up loving Nintendo.

I don’t think Sony is trying to take all of Nintendo’s casual audience; because they know that’s not going to happen. They are trying to take Nintendo’s Hardcore audience that Nintendo has neglected this generation, while trying to reassure their own hardcore audience that this tech can be implemented into the FPS’s and other action type games, that’s where the Socom 4 demo came into play at their GDC press conference. This is why I believe the PS Move will be more of a sucess than most people think.

Here are the PS eyetoy tech demos, and games, going back as far as 2004, and was shared to the public :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpNdkm9s8AY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V6fPP9DiBw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtoxKDcCXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzNJwk9Z4ds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4KJFIviHIc&feature=related

An interview:
http://www.gamasutra.com/gdc2004/features/20040326/interview-marks_01.shtml

Interesting info:
http://www.n4g.com/events_e32009/News-348053.aspx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCEyHiLxuC8&feature=player_embedded

and PS eye tech demos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c34SiWx8rKo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoH1IF5NdSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80VWGjWYWd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBA1uWSDYjk

So, Sony was first in this concept of motion camera based gaming, and a full gaming motion controller system, as they said Move was actually going to come out for PS2 but they didn’t have the technology to do it at that time, and idea that was needed to be done in the future.

If PS move is called a copy from the Wii, than Natl is just as much a copy of eyetoy.

Anyways, SOny is trying to get a small percentage of the market share, similar to Apple vs. PC market shares. Apple knows they can’t compete with the PC market, but they can penetrate the market and take a bite of the apple, so to speak, themselves.

I think the Move will help bring casual gamers to the PS3, or at least boost the family friendly titles on the system. It does add the Z axis which is a huge advancement over the Wii. Being able to differentiate left, right, forward, backwards, up, down is HUGE! Wii can only do 2 axis. This is what will let the Move be adopted by Hardcore gamers. Some people that want to try something new on their FPS’s, Action games, etc. Something the Wii cannot do properly as it isn’t 1:1 and cannot tell where you are in space.

So I think your article is extremely premature and misguided. Check Shareholder press releases and forecasts for tech before forming an absurd opinion. If Sony wanted to make this their only console seller we would see them abandon the old DS3 controller, which will never happen. See if Wii was able to come out with a Core controller for the hardcore gamer and had HD then PS3/360 would be dead in the water…too bad Nintendo wasn’t in this race for Next-gen, they just knew the Casual market wasn’t being tapped into.

I believe that using The Today Show as a barometer is appropriate. It shows total market penetration. I dont believe “the move” will ever achieve that level of penetration because it offers nothing new. Its a Barometer of success and exposure. Its an idication of mass appeal. You probably dont have a day job, so you wouldnt understand.

No, I wasn’t too fond of the Natal, but my point is more about whether or not it can be successful in a wider context.

Sony and Microsoft are definitely trying to capitalize on the success of motion-controlled gaming– but that doesn’t mean that Nintendo is some amazing paradigm for being “the first” to send it to market. Its obviously a large and important industry trend, so you can hardly blame other console companies when they try and move it forward (no pun intended) as well.

Yes– I do think Sony is trying to move it forward. They’re expanding their console’s capabilities and challenging their developers. They’ve presented the world with something old, something new– their own creation. Since when did change have to be so radical as to be on the scale of the Natal? As I remember correctly you weren’t fond of the Natal when it was announced either.

To be quite honest, I very much doubt if Microsoft or Sony are really going into this motion-controlled games business thinking “lets steal Nintendo’s market share!” Its much more likely that both companies have realized they have the only HD consoles on the market, and that no HD motion control peripherals or games have been made. Its infinitely more likely they are competing with one another, and not Nintendo.

As always, I think its far too early (with far too little information) to be saying yes or no on the Move. Particularly when the complaints you can come up with are that you think it looks weird, don’t understand the button schematic and you think it sucks.